Not loving these. We got a new rug for our screened in patio which necessitated new pillows for our rockers. The previous pillows were fantastic: perfect size and firmness to be a true lumbar pillow and felt great in the crook of our backs. These are much larger, but have virtually zero support. It’s like a big cotton ball inside. The sewing job also leaves a lot to be desired. The fabric is also much lower quality so I’m anxious to see how they hold up outside. I already felt the price was too high for the quality, but if I’d paid full price, they’d be going back for sure.